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iwmwlive: Patrick Lauke discusses: "HTML 5 and Friends". Please use #iwmw10 and the session tag #p3 to tweet [08:02GMT]

lborouniweb: Day two of #IWMW10 - kicking off with HTML5 [08:02GMT]

ostephens: @cloggingchris that'll be @m1ke_ellis #iwmw10 [08:02GMT]

darrenlanglands: @patrick_h_lauke should have got a Mac. #iwmw10 [08:03GMT]

iwmwlive: Patrick's slides are available at http://ow.ly/2aCkq #iwmw10 #p3 [08:03GMT]

mearso: Head hurts. But managed to make it to first session of the day. #iwmw10 [08:04GMT]

iwmwlive: Lauke admits that HTML 5 is a huge topic, but he wants to answer the question: should I change my site to HTML 5 now? #iwmw10 #p3 [08:04GMT]

webpackets: #iwmw10 Sat in the first session - clearly a few people here are a little fragile this morning :) [08:05GMT]

mariekeguy: #iwmw10 #p3 Patrick lauke asking if we should change our web sites to html5 [08:05GMT]

iwmwlive: HTML5 has become a woolly term - it can be anything you want it to be. Lauke will focus on the core technology #iwmw10 #p3 [08:05GMT]

spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p3 html5 can be anything you want it to be (!) [08:06GMT]

mancypino: @darrenlanglands Apple fanboy! #iwmw10 [08:06GMT]

pierotintori: attending a talk on HTML by Opera by Patrick Lauke at #iwmw10 [08:06GMT]

MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p3 @patrick_h_lauke on HTML5 http://flic.kr/p/8ic8ux [08:07GMT]

garethjms: First session of the day #p3 is about HTML5 with @patrick_h_lauke from @opera at #iwmw10 - slides are available at http://ow.ly/2aCkq ^gjms [08:07GMT]

stawebteam: First session of the day #p3 is about HTML5 with @patrick_h_lauke from @opera at #iwmw10 - slides are available at http://ow.ly/2aCkq ^gjms [08:07GMT]

adriant: Useful site about HTML5 sites - http://bit.ly/FTXGw #iwmw10 #p3 [08:07GMT]

iwmwlive: We are now seeing gallery sites showing sites in HTML 5, but we are concentrating more on the tech than what is being done #iwmw10 #p3 [08:07GMT]

MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p3 "concentrating too much on the technology, not enough on what can be done" [08:07GMT]

scottbw: Patrick Lauke from Opera talking about HTML5 at #iwmw10 [08:08GMT]

spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p3 too much technology and hype - @patrick_h_lauke gets back to basics [08:08GMT]

PlanetClaire: Morning everyone! HTML 5. Nice. #iwmw10 #p3 [08:08GMT]

iwmwlive: A quick history lesson: 1999=HTML4.01, 2000=XHTML 1.0, 2003=XForms specification. Opera looked to do XForms features using HTML #iwmw10 #p3 [08:10GMT]

mancypino: XML is the future... #p3 #iwmw10 [08:11GMT]

spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p3 XHTML 2.0 beautifully pure but no compatibility at all so browser #fail [08:11GMT]

iwmwlive: 2004: W3C focuses on XHTML 2.0, but this was backwards incompatible, so browser vendors said no #iwmw10 #p3 [08:11GMT]

theWeir: RT @garethjms: I'm in room 2, in block D2. Hey! That means I'm in R2-D2! #iwmw10 [08:12GMT]

iwmwlive: Mozilla, Opera and Safari got together to form WHATWG to find quick ways to extend HTML 4 in ways authors might like #iwmw10 #p3 [08:13GMT]

cgutteridge: HTML5 -- developed by basically everyone except Microsoft and W3C. #iwmw10 [08:13GMT]

cloggingchris: Impressed with live stream from #iwmw10 - well done guys! [08:13GMT]

PlanetClaire: All major browser vendors working together on HTML 5 standard #iwmw10 #p3 [08:14GMT]

iwmwlive: In 2007 the W3C took on this work to create the HTML5 specification & now all browser vendors are all sitting at the same table #iwmw10 #p3 [08:14GMT]

spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p3 All browser vendors now sit at the same html5 table - blimey [08:14GMT]

adrianstevenson: USeful stuff on HTML5 from Patrick Lauke at #iwmw10. Been meaning to look at this for ages [08:14GMT]

suzshi: Watching the live stream of #iwmw10 but getting rather distracted by work ... how inconvenient! But at least I'm not hungover :-P [08:15GMT]

kammer: Patrick Lauke talking about HTML 5 at #iwmw10 (the slide he's showing illustrates W3C geeks working on XML 2.0). http://twitpic.com/24vpzs [08:15GMT]

iwmwlive: The idea behind HTML5 is to better support web applications, as HTML has no built-in support for these web apps #iwmw10 #p3 [08:15GMT]

MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p3 Nice subliminal slides from @patrick_h_lauke putting Opera logo at the centre of the slide. http://flic.kr/p/8icdpk [08:16GMT]

MrJ1971: politics around HTML 5 makes entertaining reading: http://lastweekinhtml5.blogspot.com/ #iwmw10 [08:16GMT]

adrianstevenson: Lauke "HTML5 puts HTML in direct competition with Flash and Silverlight" #iwmw10 [08:16GMT]

iwmwlive: HTML5 comes into direct competition with plugin technologies like Flash and Silverlight #iwmw10 #p3 [08:16GMT]

mancypino: HTML 5 does not replace HTML 4.01 #p3 #iwmw10 [08:16GMT]

TERMINALFOUR: "HTML5 does not replace HTML 4.01" - Patrick Lauke - Opera #iwmw10 [08:16GMT]

spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p3 html5 has bling!! [08:17GMT]

m1ke_ellis: HTML 5 is HTML 4 with bling #iwmw10 [08:17GMT]

TERMINALFOUR: "HTML5 is HTML 4.01 with more Bling" #iwmw10 [08:17GMT]

iwmwlive: If your site is now valid HTML4, then changing the doc type at the top & adjusting a few little things gives you an HTML 5 site #iwmw10 #p3 [08:17GMT]

iwmwlive: Lauke warns us that the HTML5 specification is very wordy - it is aimed at browser developers #iwmw10 #p3 [08:18GMT]

adriant: When I get back I must try that doctype change fudge and then tell everyone we have an HTML5 site! #iwmw10 #p3 [08:18GMT]

html5story: RT @TERMINALFOUR"HTML5 is HTML 4.01 with more Bling" #iwmw10: "HTML5 is HTML 4.01 with more Bling" #iwmw10 [08:18GMT]

html5story: RT @spellerlive#iwmw10 #p3 html5 has bling!!: #iwmw10 #p3 html5 has bling!! [08:18GMT]

html5story: RT @TERMINALFOUR"HTML5 does not replace HTML 4.01" - Patrick Lauke - Opera #iwmw10: "HTML5 does not replace HTML 4.01" - Patrick Lauke... [08:18GMT]

liwazi: HTML5 SPEC is only for browser developers don't read it #iwmw10 [08:19GMT]

iwmwlive: The spec tries to ensure that all browsers work in the same way #iwmw10 #p3 [08:19GMT]

danielcourtney: RT @cloggingchris: Impressed with live stream from #iwmw10 - well done guys! [08:19GMT]

danwiggle: #iwmw10 HTML5 has more bling http://yfrog.com/4ri4dj [08:19GMT]

adriant: Useful HTML5 info for authors: http://bit.ly/4vWgZ #iwmw10 #p3 [08:20GMT]

m1ke_ellis: Difference document for html5: http://bit.ly/4vWgZ #iwmw10 [08:20GMT]

MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p3 HTML5 differences for developers: http://bit.ly/4vWgZ [08:20GMT]

iwmwlive: If you are an author, go to http://ow.ly/2aCEC for the differences between HTML4 and HTML5 #iwmw10 #p3 [08:20GMT]

spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p3 "html5 standardises current browser and authoring behaviour" [08:20GMT]

webpackets: RT @m1ke_ellis: Difference document for html5: http://bit.ly/4vWgZ #iwmw10 [08:21GMT]

iwmwlive: HTML5's doc type is as simple as possible <!DOCTYPE html> as that is all the browser really needs to know #iwmw10 #p3 [08:22GMT]

adrianstevenson: HTML5 doctype minimal: <!DOCTYPE html> #iwmw10 [08:22GMT]

MikeNolanLive: The dirty secret of the browser world is that it only needs <!DOCTYPE html> to switch to standards mode. #iwmw10 #p3 [08:22GMT]

lynnsta: #iwmw10 Argh! can't see the live stream. think it's my 'great' computer work connection [08:22GMT]

sdb: Wouldn't differences between HTML5 and XHTML be more useful than HTML4? #iwmw10 #p3 [08:23GMT]

iwmwlive: The syntax is a lot more flexible, but use whatever works best for you and maintains your sanity #iwmw10 #p3 [08:24GMT]

html5guy: Wouldn't differences between HTML5 and XHTML be more useful than HTML4? #iwmw10 #p3: Wouldn't differences between ... http://bit.ly/95SLrp [08:24GMT]

html5guy: HTML5's doc type is as simple as possible as that is all the browser really needs to know #iwmw10 #p3: HTML5's do... http://bit.ly/bljf13 [08:24GMT]

liwazi: html5 lower case, upper case i don't care - flexible #iwmw10 [08:24GMT]

iwmwlive: HTML5 brings new markup elements and JavaScript APIs to reflect real world content with richer semantics #iwmw10 #p3 [08:25GMT]

PlanetClaire: Can build pages with richer semantics in HTML5 #iwmw10 #p3 [08:25GMT]

pete_gilbert: HTML5 session a bit dry for me.#IWMW10 [08:26GMT]

iwmwlive: New Blog Post: Parallel Session Summary: Usability and User Experience on a Shoestring http://bit.ly/czqHh2 #iwmw10 [08:26GMT]

neilyc: Only 39 live streams at #iwmw10 - must be too early in the morning! [08:26GMT]

sdb: @lynnsta glad it's not just me that's in the dark :) #iwmw10 [08:27GMT]

pierotintori: no screen readers take advantage of new html5 elements #iwmw10 #accessibility [08:27GMT]

iwmwlive: Currently there is no screenreader that does anything sensible with HTML5 structures, but nothing less sensible than before #iwmw10 #p3 [08:27GMT]

deanohale: @pete_gilbert me too I'm thinking about lunch. Shame. #iwmw10 [08:27GMT]

iwmwlive: New things: rich form elements without JavaScript, type and attributes for built-in validation #iwmw10 #p3 [08:28GMT]

mhawksey: new html5 elements you might use on blog site #iwmw10 #p3 http://yfrog.com/9gc7vg [08:29GMT]

liwazi: current and old browsers support header footer tags but need to define display: block #iwmw10 IE needs DOM help [08:29GMT]

PlanetClaire: I left my berocca in my room. Big mistake. #iwmw10 [08:29GMT]

pip: genuinely surprised to see people taking notes in Word at #iwmw10 [08:29GMT]

adriant: Liking the input validation features in HTML5! #iwmw10 #p3 [08:29GMT]

iwmwlive: If you're watching online and want to ask Patrick Lauke a question, msg @iwmwlive and I will relay it on your behalf #iwmw10 #p3 [08:30GMT]

spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p3 Good examples of support directly in the browser for advanced elements without jquery - cool [08:30GMT]

PlanetClaire: Built in client side validation in HTML5. #iwmw10 #p3 [08:30GMT]

adriant: @pip It's a case of what you're used to! #iwmw10 [08:31GMT]

mariekeguy: @pip why? #iwmw10 [08:31GMT]

adrianstevenson: With HTML5, the browser itself can do some input validation on say, email addresses in web forms #iwmw10 [08:32GMT]

PlanetClaire: RT @mariekeguy: @pip why? #iwmw10 Quite?!? Why? I am! makes it easier to type up when I get back. [08:32GMT]

CiCS: CiCS is hosting the Institutional Web Management Workshop 2010. For more information including live streams see http://bit.ly/9hFLwc #iwmw10 [08:32GMT]

erathean: RT @stawebteam: First session of the day is about HTML5 with @patrick_h_lauke from @opera at #iwmw10 - slides at http://ow.ly/2aCkq ^gjms [08:33GMT]

iwmwlive: Video currently gets the most press - Lauke shows us the comparison between embedding Flash & using more human readable HTML5 #iwmw10 #p3 [08:33GMT]

pierotintori: seems to me that a lot of how HTML5 deals with interactive elements in hardwired in the browser! #iwmw10 [08:33GMT]

spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p3 video as a native object which plays nice with the rest of the page [08:34GMT]

codebrane: #iwmw10 HTML5 is also great for creating mobile webapps [08:34GMT]

Pete_Hyena: Watching live stream from the edge. A great presentation on HTML5 #iwmw10 [08:34GMT]

MikeNolanLive: Think there's going to be a fight between @pip and @PlanetClaire two rows in front of me ;) #iwmw10 [08:34GMT]

adrianstevenson: Video is a native web object in HTML5 that "plays nice" with the rest of the page #iwmw10 [08:34GMT]

iwmwlive: HTML5 video improves keyboard accessibility over plugin-based video #iwmw10 #p3 [08:35GMT]

FunnelbackUK: #IWMW10 We're holding a barcamp session today: "Course Finders and Beyond" - 2:15pm in the Sherman Room. Come along to join the discussion. [08:36GMT]

squizuk: #IWMW10 We're holding a barcamp session today: "Course Finders and Beyond" - 2:15pm in the Sherman Room. Come along to join the discussion. [08:36GMT]

iwmwlive: @Pete_Hyena Have you got any questions you'd like to ask? We are taking questions from #remote participants :-) #iwmw10 [08:36GMT]

mhawksey: twitter subtitling with vimeo/html5 exaplained here http://bit.ly/dfq63X #iwmw10 [08:36GMT]

casperjelly: HTML5 is flexible and gladly accepts both <br> and <br /> for example, though developed coding conventions can still aid sanity. #iwmw10 #p3 [08:37GMT]

spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p3 h.264 licencing problems down the line? [08:37GMT]

surajkika: RT @cgutteridge: HTML5 -- developed by basically everyone except Microsoft and W3C. #iwmw10 [08:37GMT]

adrianstevenson: No standard video format specified in html5. mp4 pushed by apple and chrome. Also Ogg Theora. OSS format from Google called WebM #iwmw10 [08:38GMT]

iwmwlive: You can start using the video object now - particularly useful for iPad or iPhone browsing where the plugins are not supported #iwmw10 #p3 [08:39GMT]

iwmwlive: What was the key insight you will take away from Patrick Lauke's talk? Tell us now in one tweet using #iwmw10 and the session tag #p3 [08:40GMT]

iwmwlive: Application cache means you can now build web applications that will work offline - blurring lines between native and web apps #iwmw10 #p3 [08:40GMT]

PlanetClaire: Don't do browser sniffing! #iwmw10 #p3 [08:40GMT]

spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p3 don't do browser sniffing - do feature detection [08:40GMT]

adrianstevenson: P Lauke appeals to us to not do 'browser sniffing', for Safari, Firefox etc. Bound to cause problems down the line #iwmw10 [08:41GMT]

iwmwlive: Is HTML5 a Flash-killer? Lauke feels its to early to tell, but it gives developers a choice #iwmw10 #p3 [08:41GMT]

spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p3 is html5 a Flash killer? - maybe, maybe not - but it gives you a choice. [08:42GMT]

mhawksey: #iwmw10 #p3 wonder what the browser stats are for html5 support? [08:43GMT]

adrianstevenson: Lauke "So should we do html5 today? Well maybe yes, if your VC has an iPad :) But on the whole, no need to rush" #iwmw10 [08:43GMT]

iwmwlive: If you want to take advantage of the new features, go ahead with HTML5, but don't rush off to recode if you don't need it #iwmw10 #p3 [08:43GMT]

mancypino: RT @iwmwlive: Is HTML5 a Flash-killer? Lauke feels its to early to tell, but it gives developers a choice #iwmw10 #p3 [08:43GMT]

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