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iwmwlive: Susan Farrell presents: "Are web managers still needed when everyone is a web 'expert'?" Please use #iwmw10 and the session tag #p2 to tweet [13:45GMT]
mhawksey: #p1 #iwmw10 #end [13:45GMT]
Pete_Hyena: Good question. I can make iphone apps for less than 10k :-D #iwmw10 [13:45GMT]
mearso: Thinking about sharing, whatever happened to the project for standard course info? #iwmw10 [13:45GMT]
mhawksey: another for #iwmw10 -> RT @hannahwhaley: #bbdc10 innovative imperatives are always linked to cost imperatives [13:45GMT]
MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p2 Are we needed? If not I'll be going down the pub, mkay? [13:46GMT]
ostephens: new blog post: Chris Sexton keynote - the Web in Turbulent times #iwmw10 #p1 http://bit.ly/co3cav [13:46GMT]
m1ke_ellis: The #iwmw10 quiz is now alive! Join in at http://pulltag.com [13:46GMT]
spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p1 campusM £10k dev about right but have to add £20k pa fees [13:46GMT]
andyramsden: @spellerlive #iwmw10 great idea :) [13:46GMT]
adriant: "Web Managers are undervalued" says Susan Farrell - I agree totally, of course! #iwmw10 [13:47GMT]
codebrane: really good presentations at the mo #iwmw10 http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/iwmw/live-stream.html [13:47GMT]
paulleman: #iwmw10 - 92 live stream viewers [13:47GMT]
m1ke_ellis: Excellent approach to copywrong: "I've got various images on my slides and I'm not sure where I got them from" #iwmw10 [13:48GMT]
webpackets: #iwmw10 #p2 Why aren't the skills of managers valued? Because when you do a good job you're invisible [13:48GMT]
patrick_h_lauke: it's odd how, even after a year away from edu, i still care about these institutional themes #iwmw10 and can rant about them... [13:48GMT]
iwmwlive: Farrell asks why web managers are not valuable - particularly those with "softer skills" such as writing content, usability etc #iwmw10 #p2 [13:48GMT]
alexsdutton: Sheffield's campusM deployment estimated to cost about £10k, with ombiel subsiding this as their first customer. #iwmw10 #molly [13:48GMT]
PlanetClaire: Web Managers - undervalued and underpaid ;) #iwmw10 #p2 [13:48GMT]
annindk: #iwmw10 #remote #p2 yay! Soft Web managers sounds like... time for #content strategy [13:48GMT]
spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p2 Well if it looks too easy let's make it difficult :-) [13:49GMT]
briankelly: RT @ostephens: "new blog post: Chris Sexton keynote - the Web in Turbulent times #iwmw10 #p1 http://bit.ly/co3cav " Wow that was quick! [13:49GMT]
mancypino: If web is mission critical, why are web managers so undervalued? #p2 #iwmw10 [13:49GMT]
liwazi: RT @ostephens: new blog post: Chris Sexton keynote - the Web in Turbulent times #iwmw10 #p1 http://bit.ly/co3cav [13:49GMT]
mariekeguy: RT @webpackets #iwmw10 #p2 Why aren't the skills of managers valued? Because when you do a good job you're invisible [13:49GMT]
iwmwlive: Susan Farrell's slides are available at Slideshare at http://ow.ly/2a6Gg #iwmw10 [13:50GMT]
danwiggle: #iwmw10 Web managers undermine their own credibility by devolving authoring via CMS and promoting the view that anyone can do it [13:50GMT]
webpackets: @PlanetClaire Web Managers - undervalued and underpaid ;) #iwmw10 #p2 I'm sure no-one here will disagree ;) [13:50GMT]
iwmwlive: Do we need recognised qualifications? How do we show the value that we add to the institution and the money we save #iwmw10 #p2 [13:50GMT]
paulgilpin: RT @ostephens: new blog post: Chris Sexton keynote - the Web in Turbulent times #iwmw10 #p1 http://bit.ly/co3cav [13:50GMT]
MarkPower: Are web experts the same as social media gurus? http://bit.ly/9BOnNd #iwmw10 [13:50GMT]
PlanetClaire: Our office is next to the Vc's which is quite handy!! #iwmw10 [13:50GMT]
DBailey635: @cloggingchris Why a dedicated iPhone app instead of a touch compatible mobile website? #iwmw10 [13:50GMT]
MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p2 Susan Farrell http://flic.kr/p/8hZgqU [13:51GMT]
millaraj: Video stream for #iwmw10 very jumpy at the moment [13:51GMT]
PlanetClaire: RT @danwiggle: #iwmw10 Web Mgrs undermine their own credibility by devolving authoring via CMS and promoting the view that anyone can do it [13:51GMT]
cclow82: After listening to @cloggingchris talk at #iwmw10 event, I think it's now time for IT support to be more pro-active than reactive! [13:51GMT]
iwmwlive: Farrell discusses perception of "web people", including location, awareness and profile. Does the VC understand what they do? #iwmw10 #p2 [13:51GMT]
iwmwlive: About 2 people in the audience felt that their VC understood what they do: what about the remote audience? #iwmw10 #p2 [13:52GMT]
webpackets: RT @PlanetClaire: RT @danwiggle: #iwmw10 Web Mgrs undermine their own credibility by devolving authoring via CMS and promoting the view ... [13:52GMT]
annindk: Go on then...no, not a clue #iwmw10 #remote #p2 [13:52GMT]
Ajprescott: @clhw1 Here's Chris's speech RT @ostephens: new blog post: Chris Sexton keynote : Web in Turbulent times #iwmw10 #p1 http://bit.ly/co3cav [13:52GMT]
gravescj: Answer: No - RT @MarkPower: Are web experts the same as social media gurus? http://bit.ly/9BOnNd #iwmw10 [13:53GMT]
adrianstevenson: .@davetaz Is your 'tweets per conference session' http://bit.ly/cvdgxs configurable and fireable at another conference tag eg. #iwmw10 [13:53GMT]
iwmwlive: Who are "web experts"? The people who make a little knowledge go a long way, have the ear of snr management, and hunt in packs #iwmw10 #p2 [13:53GMT]
mearso: Web experts? SEO anyone? #iwmw10 [13:53GMT]
FleurP: RT @MarkPower: We should view IT projects as business projects. The IT needs to add value > very true #iwmw10. #jiscfsd #jiscenable [13:53GMT]
iwmwlive: Farrell feels that librarians get more respect than web managers, even though they are doing similar things #iwmw10 #p2 [13:53GMT]
pete_gilbert: Who are all these pseudo "web experts"? Dangerous people who hunt in packs apparently...#IWMW10 [13:53GMT]
barbaralindas: RT @iwmwlive: About 2 people in the audience felt that their VC understood what they do: what about the remote audience? #iwmw10 #p2 [13:54GMT]
lborouniweb: Web professionals and librarians one in the same? #IWMW10 #p2 [13:54GMT]
annindk: librarians more respected? interesting, need convincing #iwmw10 #remote #p2 [13:54GMT]
spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p2 So we're all librarians now? [13:54GMT]
debbienicholson: Prefer being based in IT. Easier to create relationships with marketing staff 'on the other side' than it would be with IT staff. #iwmw10 [13:54GMT]
casperjelly: Whether your projects take weeks or years, make sure "clunky-avoidance" was on the sub-task list in order for them to success. #iwmw10 #p1 [13:54GMT]
webpackets: #iwmw10 - Not sure the librarians where I work feel valued either - so is it a matter of perception? #p2 [13:54GMT]
dannyblanchette: Excellent talk from Christine! #iwmw10 #p1 [13:54GMT]
adrianstevenson: How? RT @grahamtriggs: @adrianstevenson It's relatively trivial 2 reduce carbon count without affecting services, unlike airlines. #iwmw10 [13:54GMT]
mancypino: We've got a few of them! RT @pete_gilbert: Who are all these pseudo "web experts"? Dangerous people who hunt in packs apparently...#IWMW10 [13:55GMT]
mecb: This notetaking/laptop/netbook lark was much easier in a room with desks and powerpoints - Aberdeen was fab in that respect - #iwmw10 [13:55GMT]
annindk: is it not more a qu of redefining comms in the uni structure? #iwmw10 #remote #p2 [13:55GMT]
PlanetClaire: Should we be more forthcoming about the skills that we have and what we do and the value it has? #iwmw10 #P2 [13:55GMT]
squizuk: RT @ostephens: new blog post: Chris Sexton keynote - the Web in Turbulent times #iwmw10 #p1 http://bit.ly/co3cav [13:55GMT]
iwmwlive: Why are librarians more respected? they have been around longer, chartered, and they are more visible #iwmw10 #p2 [13:55GMT]
Pete_Hyena: Librarians V web professionals http://bit.ly/cUXm26 #iwmw10 [13:55GMT]
kammer: RT @webpackets: Why aren't the skills of [web] managers valued? Because when you do a good job you're invisible. #iwmw10 [13:55GMT]
ostephens: Susan Farrell suggestion web professionals and librarians have big overlapping skill sets, but libs get more professional respect #iwmw10 [13:55GMT]
adrianstevenson: @grahamtriggs ...given that the amount of devices and use of Web is increasing dramatically (as we're told today here at #iwmw10) [13:56GMT]
spellerlive: #iwmw10 Don't like this room - can't see a thing... [13:56GMT]
mecb: PS - these chairs aren't very comfortable either - more middle-aged male whinging later fans. #iwmw10 [13:56GMT]
sheilayoshikawa: #iwmw10 you will also find find librarians debating their future but they do have a more benign image than web managers e.g. "helpful" [13:56GMT]
ostephens: But librarians worry about professional status all the time - not sure I'd suggest web pros aspire to this! #iwmw10 #p2 [13:56GMT]
iwmwlive: Farrell explains that out of sight is out of mind - if your information is all in physical filing cabinets, you soon clear out #iwmw10 #p2 [13:56GMT]
darrenlanglands: RT @MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p2 Are we needed? If not I'll be going down the pub, mkay? [13:57GMT]
rmanleyreeve: @danwiggle but what is the alternative to devolved CMS authoring in a large uni? #iwmw10 [13:57GMT]
TERMINALFOUR: RT @boagworld: interested in a great higher education web conference then you can watch the live stream at - http://bit.ly/d5ek0e #iwmw10 [13:57GMT]
PlanetClaire: How many Web Managers also manage people? Two very different skills which should be acknowledged. #iwmw10 #P2 [13:57GMT]
SimonTanner: RT @Ajprescott: @clhw1 Here's Chris's speech RT @ostephens: new blog post: Chris Sexton keynote : Web in Turbulent times #iwmw10 #p1 htt ... [13:58GMT]
apbleonard: @briankelly Delighted to get my question in. Almost makes up for not being able to be there! Yes it was me the York IWMW07 streamer. #iwmw10 [13:58GMT]
mancypino: RT @PlanetClaire: How many Web Managers also manage people? Two very different skills which should be acknowledged. #iwmw10 #P2 [13:58GMT]
debbienicholson: @mecb Aberdeen spoiled us. We're never happy now unless we have spinny chairs and our own booth! #iwmw10 [13:59GMT]
webpackets: #iwmw10 #p2 "We know what the students want" Really - we ask all the time and I've never had a consistent answer back yet :( [13:59GMT]
lborouniweb: Those pesky marketing managers... #IWMW10 [13:59GMT]
ostephens: @liwazi and I say Web Pros - welcome to the service industry :) #iwmw10 #p2 [13:59GMT]
iwmwlive: We all know H1 headings are important for SEO, but how many say "welcome"? #iwmw10 #p2 [13:59GMT]
pete_gilbert: Web experts undermine web managers skills. #IWMW10 [13:59GMT]
Webdunk: RT @iwmwlive: We all know H1 headings are important for SEO, but how many say "welcome"? #iwmw10 #p2 [14:00GMT]
PlanetClaire: Speak to your marketing teams. instead of spending money on advertising spend it on SEO. that;s what we're about to do #iwmw10 #p2 [14:00GMT]
mearso: Aren't essentially talking about Status Anxiety? http://j.mp/bHbuu0 #iwmw10 [14:00GMT]
iwmwlive: We know SEO is important, yet it is very difficult to get funding to do it well, event though lots of money spent on marketing #iwmw10 #p2 [14:00GMT]
PlanetClaire: Aberdeen was like being at the UN!! #iwmw10 [14:00GMT]
gravescj: SEO #IWMW10 best done through well linked long lasting content and through sharing content on your "networks" [14:01GMT]
daveyp: Bit of a shame the microphone is pointing away from the speaker. Low volume for those watching the video streaming #iwmw10 [14:01GMT]
iwmwlive: Many users rely on search engines to find things - but to be found, we need to have structured our content properly #iwmw10 #p2 [14:01GMT]
patrick_h_lauke: i see @madeinmanc is the saddo with the iPaid #iwmw10 ;) [14:01GMT]
nigelbradley: #iwmw10 checkout woorank.com for seo for yours or others sites [14:01GMT]
webpackets: #iwmw10 #p2 Senior management listen to consultants and not their staff who will tell them the same thing for no more money - how true! [14:03GMT]
MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p2 "The consultant knows best" - if you pay a fee for an opinion it must be better than employee. < Too true [14:03GMT]
DBailey635: #iwmw10 chairs in room are really uncomfortable. My bum has gone to sleep! Lousy sight lines to stage too. Tiered seating next time please? [14:03GMT]
spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p2 ...and the fact that SEO is b******s has something to do with it. [14:03GMT]
mariekeguy: @mecb is it that the chairs aren't comfy or you're getting older?! ;-) #iwmw10 [14:03GMT]
iwmwlive: When there is a change to a website, everyone has an opinion, but whilst you need their thoughts, you need to manage feedback #iwmw10 #p2 [14:03GMT]
garethjms: @Webdunk Releasing little and often using e.g. an Agile method should mean that it's all very well tested. #iwmw10 [14:03GMT]
patrick_h_lauke: @daveyp should invest in some wireless mics... #iwmw10 [14:03GMT]
pete_gilbert: "If you pay for a consultant it must be better than the one you pay a salary for." #IWMW10 [14:03GMT]
ostephens: @m1ke_ellis http://bit.ly/cEpTUo is your friend... #iwmw10 [14:04GMT]
darrenlanglands: #iwmw10 "consultants know best... " #seomoron [14:04GMT]
hw_ac_uk: #iwmw10 #p2 "the web is constantly in the firing line [by those who are not responsible for the web]" [14:04GMT]
apbleonard: @cloggingchris V true researchers happy to be distinctive, but digital repositories, social networking, amplified seminars can help? #iwmw10 [14:04GMT]
keithbrooke: @PlanetClaire we had sunshine in Aberdeen, too! #iwmw10 [14:04GMT]
iwmwlive: What is a web professional? The term covers so many different skills & experiences: its not recognised by employers & recruiters #iwmw10 #p2 [14:04GMT]
mancypino: "If you pay a fee for an opinion, it must be better than the one you pay a salary for!" Don't I know it!! #p2 #IWMW10 [14:04GMT]
spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p2 She can come and do an MSc in Elecronic Comms at our place... [14:04GMT]
pete_gilbert: Exactly what is a web professional? #IWMW10 [14:04GMT]
garygre: @ostephens Re overlap between web pros & librarians - think those outside the professions don't necessarily see the overlap. #iwmw10 #p2 [14:04GMT]
patrick_h_lauke: RT @MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p2 "The consultant knows best" - if you pay a fee for an opinion it must be better than employee. < Too true [14:05GMT]
alexsdutton: RT @daveyp: Bit of a shame the microphone is pointing away from the speaker. Low volume for those watching the video streaming #iwmw10 [14:05GMT]
DBailey635: If only my webmasters would add metadata to pages. Our search engine is highly customised to take account of bad meta tagging. #iwmw10 [14:05GMT]
daveyp: @patrick_h_lauke I blame @mariekeguy - I think she touched it last ;-D #iwmw10 [14:05GMT]
mecb: @mariekeguy good q. - I suspect a bit of both, but if anything I have more natural padding now - so these chairs must be really bad! #iwmw10 [14:05GMT]
MarkPower: @PaulHollins @FleurP @PatParslow wasn't my line btw. Came from @cloggingchris's talk at #iwmw10 [14:05GMT]
iwmwlive: Farrell feels we're currently running the risk of our skills being absorbed into other roles, with softer skills less recognised #iwmw10 #p2 [14:06GMT]
mariekeguy: @daveyp ok I heard you! #iwmw10 [14:06GMT]
ostephens: @garygre or inside? #iwmw10 #p2 [14:06GMT]
iwmwlive: We need to show what managing a website actually entails to overcome the complacency that has crept in #iwmw10 #p2 [14:06GMT]
andypowe11: just out of interest... am i the only person who can't watch the #iwmw10 live stream because of firewall issues? :-( [14:06GMT]
mlpoulter: Nice tag! RT @darrenlanglands: #iwmw10 "consultants know best... " #seomoron [14:07GMT]
rmanleyreeve: RT @garethjms: @Webdunk Releasing little and often using e.g. an Agile method should mean that it's all very well tested. #iwmw10 [14:07GMT]
patrick_h_lauke: @darrenlanglands #iwmw10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udYVhasLs2g particularly SEO is an area rife with charlatans [14:07GMT]
redcrew: RT @MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p2 "The consultant knows best" - if you pay a fee for an opinion it must be better than employee. < Too true [14:08GMT]
mariekeguy: We'll use lapel mikes tomorrow - ladies with dresses had nowhere to clip them to! #iwmw10 [14:08GMT]
ostephens: Web Pros and Librarians - think what is missing is what Web pros stand for. Librarians have professional ethics http://bit.ly/919ZAn #iwmw10 [14:08GMT]
mearso: Perhaps design management (in it's broader sense) is what is needed? #iwmw10 #p2 [14:08GMT]
DBailey635: We're redesigning right now. Got consultancy in now to tell us what we're doing right and wrong prior to design and IA changes. #iwmw10 [14:08GMT]
PlanetClaire: Has it stopped raining? #iwmw10 #p2 [14:09GMT]
iwmwlive: What happens if web managers are not there? no content management,no design standards, missing, duplicated or inaccurate content #iwmw10 #p2 [14:10GMT]
mariekeguy: @mecb the chairs are uncomfy (is that a word?) to keep you alert! #iwmw10 [14:10GMT]
hw_ac_uk: #iwmw10 #p2 familiar threads: problems securing funding for user testing when value is underestimated by key staff. [14:10GMT]
briankelly: RT @andypowe11: "am i the only person who can't watch #iwmw10 live stream because of firewall issues?" Anyone else have similar probs? [14:10GMT]
webpackets: @PlanetClaire #iwmw10 Sat near the window and it's a no :( [14:10GMT]
m1ke_ellis: Web pros are mainly IT people. That they can't communicate value doesn't seem surprising in the slightest :-) #ducks #iwmw10 [14:10GMT]
danwiggle: @rmanleyreeve Limited devolution - fewer authors total, but more actual web experts in depts, with tight links to corporate team #iwmw10 [14:10GMT]
patrick_h_lauke: #iwmw10 @mlpoulter @darrenlanglands google never forgets (12 months ago tweet) http://mobile.twitter.com/patrick_h_lauke/status/2659435379 [14:11GMT]
iwmwlive: The web needs to be at the heart of business: streamlining processes, making tasks quicker, enabling fast, personalised access #iwmw10 #p2 [14:11GMT]
PlanetClaire: We may not have 'web' qualifications but who has other recognised qualifications that go towards being a Web Manager? #iwmw10 #p2 [14:11GMT]
MikeNolan: RT @m1ke_ellis: Web pros are mainly IT people. That they can't communicate value doesn't seem surprising in the slightest :-) #ducks #iwmw10 [14:11GMT]
patrick_h_lauke: #iwmw10 @mariekeguy ok so i won't be wearing my slinky black cocktail dress for my 9am slot...bummer [14:12GMT]
iwmwlive: We have to make our roles indispensable, not ourselves - and and not by working longer hours! #iwmw10 #p2 [14:12GMT]
mecb: @mariekeguy In which case I declare them a huge success - best IWMW chairs ever! Just proves fit for purpose doesn't mean good! :-) #iwmw10 [14:12GMT]
spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p2 Hoho - *no one* is indispensable Susan [14:13GMT]
iwmwlive: Think like a PR person! #iwmw10 #p2 [14:13GMT]
patrick_h_lauke: RT @m1ke_ellis: Web pros are mainly IT people. That they can't communicate value doesn't seem surprising in the slightest :-) #ducks #iwmw10 [14:13GMT]
iwmwlive: Who is going to be your champion? Use them to get your message across your institution #iwmw10 #p2 [14:14GMT]
pete_gilbert: "Web professionals have to promote themselves" nduh...all IT professionals.in education should be these days...#IWMW10 [14:14GMT]
williamslive: #iwmw10 Who, in the University, will stick up for me? That would be me then. [14:14GMT]
spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p2 Agree with getting good (senior academic) champion - good in all walks of university life. [14:14GMT]
kammer: Not sure complacency has 'crept' in with regard to perceptions of web management in HE. It's been a topic at IWMW for years. #iwmw10 [14:14GMT]
sheilayoshikawa: #iwmw10 venue's called "the Edge" remember, perhaps = "keep on edge of your seats" (watching from med-hard chair in my Sheffield office) [14:14GMT]
MultiMediaIT: RT @ostephens: Web Pros and Librarians - think what is missing is what Web pros stand for. Librarians have professional ethics http://bit.ly/919ZAn #iwmw10 [14:14GMT]
iwmwlive: Farrell recommends cross institution board to get more buy-in for web services, but notes this is often difficult #iwmw10 #p2 [14:14GMT]
webpackets: #iwmw10 #p2 Web advisory group - combine this with corporate applications to make sure the web is integral to all systems and processes [14:15GMT]
m1ke_ellis: Thinking I should be pimping my book. Only problem is, I haven't finished writing it yet... #iwmw10 [14:15GMT]
djwilliams: @iwmwlive most of my job is PR already. I sometimes describe myself as the department spin doctor. #iwmw10 #p2 [14:15GMT]
webpackets: RT @williamslive: #iwmw10 Who, in the University, will stick up for me? That would be me then. [14:15GMT]
patrick_h_lauke: RT @kammer: Not sure complacency has 'crept' in with regard to perceptions of web management in HE. It's been a topic at IWMW for years. #iwmw10 [14:15GMT]
mearso: Web Steering Group seating arrangements http://j.mp/9csFLf #iwmw10 #p2 [14:16GMT]
mariekeguy: @m1ke_ellis well don't then, you bad commercial spammer! #iwmw10 [14:16GMT]
iwmwlive: How can web managers help the institution to meet its objectives - look at the uni strategy and highlight roles for the web #iwmw10 #p2 [14:17GMT]
mecb: So I haven't tweeted much about #iwmw10 content. Thats cos I think its been good and thought-provoking - and many others are tweeting loads! [14:17GMT]
PlanetClaire: Or when someone asks for a website ask THEM how it will help them achieve their objectives, to help you understand. #iwmw10 #p2 [14:17GMT]
iwmwlive: We need to show how the web can help enhance the reputation of the institution and add value #iwmw10 #p2 [14:18GMT]
annindk: @mlpoulter More and more happy I've left the 9-5 #consultantsknowbest #iwmw10 #remote #p2 [14:18GMT]
spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p2 She's right about most of this - but I'm not sure it's the right audience? They aren't placed to make the changes are they? [14:18GMT]
PlanetClaire: But the web has to be part of a bigger whole - a comms and marketing strategy or similar or it will be a barren island. #iwmw10 #p2 [14:19GMT]
m1ke_ellis: Best trick I ever found was to absolutely align web with institutional strategy, sell value on top of an existing approach #iwmw10 [14:19GMT]
squizuk: To attract prospective students you need a user friendly course finder with effective search - http://bit.ly/94vydS #iwmw10 [14:19GMT]
darrenlanglands: I used to scribble notes. Now I save twitter trend searches. #iwmw10 [14:20GMT]
iwmwlive: If you're watching online and want to ask Susan Farrell a question, msg @iwmwlive and I will relay it on your behalf #iwmw10 #p2 [14:20GMT]
mwbiz: @redcrew do you have a URL for the #iwmw10 live stream? [14:20GMT]
mecb: @spellerlive I'm finding it useful to help me try and persuade others, but I admit many in here might not find it so useful #iwmw10 #p2 [14:20GMT]
MikeNolanLive: Hello new #iwmw10 followers. I'm normally @MikeNolan - this is my live tweeting account but feel free to follow both! [14:20GMT]
mancypino: @spellerlive I think that's what she's trying to get us to be - to put ourselves in a position to influence change. #p2 #iwmw10 [14:21GMT]
spellerlive: #iwmw10 My backside's gone to sleep #grumpyoldman [14:21GMT]
deanohale: Charge 'difficult' departments for the work you do, as they are paying directly they feel they have something worthwhile #iwmw10 [14:21GMT]
iwmwlive: We need to get out there and get involved in committees - be seen to be there and have your ear to the ground #iwmw10 #p2 [14:22GMT]
MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p2: Get involved in committees << sadly a necessary evil. [14:22GMT]
webpackets: #iwmw10 #p2 "We need to get involved in committees" No please no more meetings - it's the right meetings we need to get involved in :) [14:22GMT]
mariekeguy: @mwbiz http://iwmw.ukoln.ac.uk/iwmw2010/video/ #iwmw10 [14:22GMT]
iwmwlive: Farrell asks if we need a professional body, but admits that web professionals are a very disparate group of people #iwmw10 #p2 [14:22GMT]
mecb: @spellerlive don't get me started again. Front-end services are being maintained but I'm having problems with the back-end. #iwmw10 [14:22GMT]
keithbrooke: iwmw as the basis of a professional body, or does it need to be broader? #iwmw10 [14:23GMT]
iwmwlive: We need to make sure we are part of the solution in our institutions, not part of the overheads #iwmw10 #p2 [14:23GMT]
sharonsteeples: Liking the idea of a professional body for web 'bods' . #iwmw10 # [14:23GMT]
apbleonard: @cloggingchris Great plenary and thanks for sharing 2% figure. Hope raising research fraction of IT spend won't be "discretionary"! #iwmw10 [14:23GMT]
sdb: @darrenlanglands crowdsourcing the note taking is definitely the way forward #iwmw10 [14:23GMT]
MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p2 Do we need a web professionals' body << not sure having seen the BCS' recent attempts to self destruct. [14:23GMT]
spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p2 "Be part of the solution, not the overhead" [14:24GMT]
adriant: @webpackets Amen to that! We need to find ways to cut across/break out of committee structures, to actually get stuff done! #iwmw10 #p2 [14:24GMT]
Webdunk: RT @spellerlive: #iwmw10 #p2 "Be part of the solution, not the overhead" [14:24GMT]
redcrew: @mwbiz Yes, the link for #iwmw10 #highered live stream is http://bit.ly/9SdtUN [14:24GMT]
Pete_Hyena: Some good stuff about web management on #iwmw10 live feed [14:25GMT]
pieceofthepie: Woo. Tea break #iwmw10 [14:25GMT]
DifferentNS: RT @PlanetClaire: Speak to your marketing teams. instead of spending money on advertising spend it on SEO. that;s what we're about to do #iwmw10 #p2 [14:25GMT]
PlanetClaire: Is there a handy place we can plug devices in to charge overt the breaks? #iwmw10 [14:25GMT]
DBailey635: I think institutional web managers do need a professional body! #iwmw10 [14:26GMT]
iwmwlive: Susan Farrell's slides are available on Slideshare at http://ow.ly/2abL2 #iwmw10 #p2 [14:27GMT]
DBailey635: Who on earth blogs these days? That's considered old-school now. #iwmw10 [14:27GMT]
daveyp: Thinking Web Managers need an equivalent of the Shambrarian professional body/union/mafia #iwmw10 [14:27GMT]
cloggingchris: Plenary talk over at #iwmw10 - thank goodness! Now to write one for Wednesday's conference.... [14:27GMT]
MikeNolanLive: #iwmw10 #p2: Blogging isn't the answer << agree it's only part, but it's how I hone my thoughts and gives me things to discuss elsewhere. [14:28GMT]
m1ke_ellis: CAKE FINE! #iwmw10 #phone #moby [14:28GMT]
williamslive: #iwmw10 mobile phone fail [14:28GMT]
lynnsta: #iwmw10 http://video.twitterwall.me/19930623 [14:29GMT]
cloggingchris: Just wondering what part of "please turn your mobile to silent" people don't understand :-) #iwmw10 [14:29GMT]
annindk: Needing a definition for Web manager over here - too much We/Us speak , and now IT vs libns - doesn't work for me #iwmw10 #remote #p2 [14:29GMT]
sheilayoshikawa: #iwmw10 Susan Farrell is one of our alumni ;-) (Dept of Information Studies at Sheffield) [14:30GMT]
mhawksey: #p2 #iwmw10 #end [14:30GMT]
seanbotha: Was. That guy's ringtone the Lighthouse Family? He could be lifted... #iwmw10 [14:30GMT]
iwmwlive: What was the key insight you will take away from Susan Farrells's talk? Tell us now in one tweet using #iwmw10 and the session tag #p2 [14:30GMT]
patrick_h_lauke: mr "i have moby as my ringtone" rings in the coffee break #iwmw10 [14:30GMT]
paulleman: #iwmw10 - grade 10? - go for it Richard B [14:30GMT]
chameleon_net: #iwmw10 - speak to us over coffee about our "freshers friend" mobile web app: fully branded uni mobile site for freshers - under £6K. [14:31GMT]
navtis: cilip for web managers? no no noooo #iwmw10 [14:31GMT]
ChameleonRoss: RT @chameleon_net: #iwmw10 - speak to us over coffee about our "freshers friend" mobile web app: fully branded uni mobile site for fres ... [14:32GMT]
redcrew: RT @iwmwlive: Susan Farrell's slides are available on Slideshare at http://ow.ly/2abL2 #iwmw10 #p2 #highered [14:33GMT]
DBailey635: #iwmw10 My ringtone is the opening theme to "Love Hina"! [14:33GMT]
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ostephens: new blog post 'Are web managers still needed' by Susan Farrell #iwmw10 #p2 http://bit.ly/9waehc [14:34GMT]
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daveyp: @DBailey635 I vote that you should get extra cake for that :-) #iwmw10 #CoolRingTones [14:35GMT]
iwmwlive: We'e now breaking for tea, followed by parallel sessions. Watch the blog for speaker interviews & summaries of parallel sessions #iwmw10 [14:35GMT]
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