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jobadge: Still masses of people here for final keynote #altc2009 [11:01GMT]

JorumTeam: Winners of the Jorum Learning & Teaching Competition announced: http://tinyurl.com/JorumComp Congratulations to all finalists #altc2009 [11:01GMT]

timos75: closing keynote at #altc2009 [11:01GMT]

acha1977: final keynote Terry Anderson hopefully as good as the others #altc2009 [11:01GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Terry Anderson @ #altc2009 [11:02GMT]

sputuk: @dsugden reading over your virtual shoulder...does that count? #altc2009 [11:02GMT]

stujohnson: In the final key note at #altc2009 [11:02GMT]

gijsdebakker: Just did my presentation and had some interesting questions and met some new contacts #altc2009 [11:02GMT]

gillysalmon: in MLT Terry Anderson's keynote. He says Uk has best source of funding for learning innovation (is this really true?) #altc2009 [11:02GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Wrestling with dinosaurs = HE (Anderson) #altc2009 [11:03GMT]

gillysalmon: good to see so many people hanging onto the hand, I appreciate... #altc2009 [11:03GMT]

josiefraser: at Terry Andersons keynote. Fitting Athabasca is represented when the OU have pretty much rocked #altc2009 [11:03GMT]

jamesclay: Final Keynote #altc2009 http://twitpic.com/h6j2j [11:04GMT]

sputuk: Final crowd for final keynote at #altc2009 http://twitpic.com/h6j2l [11:04GMT]

HeikePhilp: Terry Anderon, Canada Research in last keynote in Elluminate @A_L_T #altc2009 on now, http://tinyurl.com/nyb2v3 [11:04GMT]

cristinacost: RT @jamesclay: Final Keynote #altc2009 http://twitpic.com/h6j2j [11:04GMT]

gillysalmon: Terry Anderson working on book on virtual conferences #altc2009 [11:04GMT]

Dcotton11: Terry Anderson looking at carbon footprint of conferences - aagh! #altc2009 [11:04GMT]

jamesclay: The audience. #altc2009 http://twitpic.com/h6j47 [11:04GMT]

gijsdebakker: now in keynote by terry anderson, the dinosaur wrestler #altc2009 [11:04GMT]

theokk: Like Terry many of us wrestle with dinosaurs #altc2009 [11:04GMT]

SueFolley: @romieh glad to hear it - the rude ones must have all been in the one I was attending!! :-)) #altc2009 [11:05GMT]

theokk: RT @jamesclay: Final Keynote #altc2009 http://twitpic.com/h6j2j [11:05GMT]

SueFolley: attending final keynote at #altc2009 by Terry Anderson [11:05GMT]

theokk: RT @HeikePhilp: Terry Anderon, Canada Research in last keynote in Elluminate @A_L_T #altc2009 on now, http://tinyurl.com/nyb2v3 [11:05GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Standing behind... RT @timbuckteeth: Kneeling at the back next to @andyjb (who is kneeling just as well as me) #altc2009 [11:05GMT]

xlearn: http://twitpic.com/h6j6p - Terry Anderson has been wrestling with dinosaurs. #altc2009.. [11:06GMT]

gillysalmon: values first- 'we're all in change busin ess' #altc2009 [11:06GMT]

NeilAdam: @andyjb @timbuckteeth which way is Mecca? #altc2009 [11:06GMT]

AJCann: Go Terry! Finally someone mentions environmental impact of conferences #altc2009 [11:06GMT]

janetedavis: Perhaps should have job title dinosaur-wranglers? dinoherd? RT @theokk Like Terry many of us wrestle with dinosaurs #altc2009 [11:07GMT]

gillysalmon: there's seats- those who are standing cmon down #altc2009 [11:07GMT]

jamesclay: Why isn't Twitterfall or other Twitter stream viewable to the audience? #altc2009 [11:07GMT]

elaines: Terry Anderson - teaching and learning - it's a multidimensional system #altc2009 [11:07GMT]

sarahhorrigan: 'We teach the way we were taught' ??? I really hope not! #altc2009 [11:07GMT]

djkennedy: RT @AJCann: Go Terry! Finally someone mentions environmental impact of conferences #altc2009 [11:07GMT]

Pouchatron: On train looking forward to a coffee and no wireless for 2 hours.....and relax!! #altc2009 good to meet every1, tweet me for email addys! [11:07GMT]

markstiles: #altc2009 - education for elites not enough - excellent message [11:07GMT]

tbush: Student control and freedom is integral to 21st Century life-long education and learning - Terry Anderson #altc2009 [11:07GMT]

bvi4092: listening to Terry Anderson keynote fro #altc2009 via Elluminate. I love technology [11:08GMT]

AlanTait: I have never known such a snowstorm of blogging and twittering as at the altc conference! #altc2009 [11:08GMT]

JenParr09: @jamesclay exactly my thought #altc2009 [11:08GMT]

gillysalmon: love the titles Janet #altc2009 [11:08GMT]

jobadge: @jamesclay no twitterfall cos it would block out the two people watching on elliminate. #altc2009 [11:08GMT]

gillysalmon: really Alan, I thought it quite a light fall ...#altc2009 [11:08GMT]

SimonBorgert: RT @sarahhorrigan: 'We teach the way we were taught' ??? I really hope not! #altc2009 Me too! (although I had some good teachers i emulate) [11:09GMT]

gillysalmon: new handbook on faculty dvpt did anyone catch url? #altc2009 [11:09GMT]

w2YDAvid: RT @timbuckteeth: "Anderson - We are all in the change business 'education for elites is not sufficient for planetary survival' #altc2009" [11:09GMT]

jamesclay: RT @jobadge: @jamesclay no twitterfall cos it would block out the two people watching on elliminate. #altc2009 [11:09GMT]

jamesclay: Why is competition useful? #altc2009 [11:10GMT]

sarahhorrigan: 'death and retirement' - the great hope of HE :o)) #altc2009 [11:10GMT]

Dcotton11: Terry Anderson ethuses about death and retirement! #altc2009 [11:11GMT]

markstiles: #altc2009 death and retirement as a positive trend LOL [11:11GMT]

theokk: RT @sarahhorrigan: 'We teach the way we were taught' ??? I really hope not! #altc2009 [11:11GMT]

JorumTeam: Congratulations to the Learn Higher Team and York St John University, winners in the Jorum L&T Comp: http://tinyurl.com/JorumComp #altc2009 [11:11GMT]

gijsdebakker: Death and retirement as good innovation around the corner? :) #altc2009 [11:11GMT]

TerryWassall: #altc2009 progress via death and retirement [11:11GMT]

jamesclay: "Students are not digitally engaged" #altc2009 [11:11GMT]

gillysalmon: clysdale 2009 wake up and smell the new epistemology (students are Not multi taskers) mmm not sure #altc2009 [11:11GMT]

kateboardman: personally the death and retirement option is quite high in my strategy for change ;-) #altc2009 [11:11GMT]

jamesclay: Students have a "well established method of ignoring" #altc2009 [11:12GMT]

openpad: Terry Anderson mentioned Gregor Kennedy online booklet on Net Generation as good resource. #altc2009 [11:12GMT]

stujohnson: Students have a "well established method of ignoring" #altc2009 (via @jamesclay) [11:12GMT]

djkennedy: Students are not skilled in using new tools... No, and neither are teachers -#altc2009 [11:12GMT]

djkennedy: RT @jamesclay: Students have a "well established method of ignoring" #altc2009 [11:12GMT]

andyjb: #altc2009 turning off to life interesting quote [11:12GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Is it wrong to tweet that someone just farted in front of me?? #altc2009 [11:12GMT]

gillysalmon: "we can no longer maintain interest and enthusiasm based on rspect and superior knowledge|" yeah #altc2009 [11:12GMT]

jamesclay: RT @djkennedy: Students are not skilled in using new tools... No, and neither are teachers -#altc2009 [11:12GMT]

stujohnson: Students are not skilled in using new tools... No, and neither are teachers -#altc2009 (via @djkennedy) [11:13GMT]

JackieCarter: yes! At last ref to social capital. #altc2009 [11:13GMT]

yrathro: RT: @timbuckteeth: Anderson - No systemic innovation in higher ed since the 1960s #altc2009 [11:13GMT]

josiefraser: Future looking bright RT @timbuckteeth: Anderson - promising signs such as ubiquity, OERs & death and retirement #altc2009 [11:13GMT]

timos75: twit or not twit? to eat or not to eat? to be or not to be? #altc2009 [11:13GMT]

jobadge: @bvi4092 glad someone is watching - elliminate chat is on big screens here, please post ask them to change to twitterfall :-) #altc2009 [11:13GMT]

jamesclay: @sarahhorrigan depends on where you are sitting! #altc2009 [11:13GMT]

gijsdebakker: students are not deeply digitally engaged. finally someone who sees that we are exaggerating "the digital natives" #altc2009 [11:13GMT]

sputuk: "no longer maintain interest..based on respect.."-same reason people think they can sing on xfactor,no proffesional respect now #altc2009 [11:13GMT]

gillysalmon: www.go2web20.net 3000 apps #altc2009 [11:13GMT]

cristinacost: RT @josiefraser: Future looking bright RT @timbuckteeth: Anderson - promising signs such as ubiquity, OERs & death and retirement #altc2009 [11:14GMT]

gillysalmon: wate, use learn lol #altc2009 [11:14GMT]

JenParr09: my students generally show me what to do! #altc2009 I like it that way [11:14GMT]

R3beccaF: Wondering if we could get a fake Twitterfall up on screen by posting Tweets into Elluminate #altc2009 [11:14GMT]

andyjb: #altc2009 terry anderson keynote death obssessed morbid [11:14GMT]

gillysalmon: dron and anderson working on choice of tools #altc2009 [11:14GMT]

joncrel: @JenParr09 yep, one generally learns a lot from listening to students... #altc2009 [11:15GMT]

kateboardman: that @jamesclay gets everywhere. I see you on elluminate - hogging bandwidth of the more carbon-friendly delegates #altc2009 [11:16GMT]

jobadge: Go James !! @Jamesclay #altc2009 [11:16GMT]

josiefraser: Terry just gave the VLE is Dead debate ( http://bit.ly/zvGs8 )a heads up as central to this weeks discussions. Cheers! #altc2009 [11:16GMT]

openpad: Dron and Alexander(2007) working on the Taxonomy of the Many - extend group model beyond classroom #altc2009 [11:16GMT]

boltmwj1: I can't be arsed to twitter at #altc2009 [11:16GMT]

xlearn: RT @jamesclay @sarahhorrigan are you sat behind james clay again? #altc2009 [11:16GMT]

sputuk: RT @R3beccaF: Wondering if we could get a fake Twitterfall up on screen by posting Tweets into Elluminate #altc2009 - do it! :-) [11:17GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Terry Anderson now showing a diagram which has padded out many bits of writing for me. Gawd bless 'im #altc2009 [11:17GMT]

Dcotton11: Issues of security and trust - reason why vles are behind firewall. Anderson keynote #altc2009 [11:17GMT]

boltmwj1: Wengler?? #altc2009 [11:17GMT]

gillysalmon: like 7 dwarfs for Wenger #altc2009 [11:17GMT]

kateboardman: another 21st c proverb if one is to quote a seminal author, maybe get the name right?! #altc2009 [11:17GMT]

cristinacost: RT @josiefraser Terry just gave the VLE is Dead debate http://bit.ly/zvGs8 heads up as central to this weeks discussions. Cheers! #altc2009 [11:17GMT]

egrommet: I'm in online learning heaven - Lave and Vygotsky crop up in internship paper. #foj09 so not all bad that I missed #altc2009 [11:18GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Wiggio now being shown for group working #altc2009 [11:18GMT]

boltmwj1: ok... only if something funny happens... #altc2009 [11:18GMT]

jamesclay: If learners choose Wiggio fine, but if institution says USE Wiggio then no different to them saying USE the VLE. #altc2009 [11:18GMT]

tim_neumann: Hehe, spelling mistake in Anderson's keynote - {pedantic}CoP were coined by Wenger, not Wengler, weren't they?{/pedantic} #altc2009 [11:19GMT]

Dcotton11: Students unable to think outside the teacher-managed group. Really? Anderson, #altc2009 [11:19GMT]

josiefraser: side screens in the auditorium showing elluminate chat room messages asking if the twitterstream can be put up instead. #altc2009 [11:20GMT]

djkennedy: RT @jamesclay: If learners choose Wiggio fine, but if institution says USE Wiggio then no different to them saying USE the VLE. #altc2009 [11:20GMT]

daveowhite: Live elluminate chat in the keynote has become an argument over the format of the chat. #altc2009 [11:20GMT]

AJCann: RT @jamesclay If learners choose Wiggio fine, but if institution says USE Wiggio then no different to them saying USE the VLE. #altc2009 [11:20GMT]

Dcotton11: I'm still not sure about the idea of 'flocks' - sheep following each other blindly? #altc2009 [11:20GMT]

philliptowndrow: Do groups only make sense in education? #altc2009 [11:20GMT]

ostephens: What is a VLE? Protected environment, publication platform for teaching materials, some collab tools, institutionally sponsored. #altc2009 [11:20GMT]

djkennedy: RT @Dcotton11: Students unable to think outside the teacher-managed group. Really? Anderson, #altc2009 [11:20GMT]

gillysalmon: yep Kate quite a few typos, pity , good points, minor distraction #altc2009 [11:21GMT]

jamesclay: Does learning always have to be "cool". Why is "cool" cool? Why can't we be uncool? #altc2009 [11:21GMT]

markstiles: #altc2009 rewards - formal education's last advantage - Anderson [11:21GMT]

gillysalmon: flicks have sheepdog #altc2009 [11:21GMT]

theokk: @jamesclay ah! but is the Wiggio content/structure under control of the institution? #altc2009 [11:21GMT]

stujohnson: Groups are necessary but not sufficient for learning #altc2009 ...networks... [11:22GMT]

AnnetteOdell: “Groups are necessary but are not sufficient for quality learning”. Need networks too.#altc2009 [11:22GMT]

jamesclay: RT @gillysalmon: flicks have sheepdog #altc2009 [11:22GMT]

gillysalmon: flicks= online flocks #altc2009 [11:22GMT]

tim_neumann: "groups are necessary, but not sufficient for quality learning" - couldn't agree more. #altc2009 [11:22GMT]

sputuk: RT @jamesclay: "Does learning always have to be "cool". Why is "cool" cool? Why can't we be uncool?" #altc2009 lets hear it for the geeks! [11:23GMT]

kateboardman: @gillysalmon yes indeed, Billy, only a small distraction ;-) #altc2009 [11:23GMT]

djkennedy: RT @jamesclay: Does learning always have to be "cool". Why is "cool" cool? Why can't we be uncool? #altc2009 [11:23GMT]

gillysalmon: people who live in the intersection of social world are at higher risk of having good ideas burt 2005 #altc2009 [11:23GMT]

dsugden: Good ideas. What are they? #altc2009 Social groups have them (quote) [11:23GMT]

gillysalmon: compelling not compulsory activities neat for learning design #altc2009 [11:24GMT]

djkennedy: RT @tim_neumann: "groups are necessary, but not sufficient for quality learning" - couldn't agree more. #altc2009 [11:24GMT]

jamesclay: Are our expecations of Google Wave too high? #altc2009 [11:24GMT]

kateboardman: 'compelling' = ppl flocking to it, better than the sheep concept #altc2009 [11:25GMT]

Pompeysie: Dissapointed I didn't make any if the FAlt stuff, particularly the party last night. Did I miss much? #altc2009 [11:25GMT]

JenParr09: #altc2009 flocks also have shepherds - makes it even more freaky [11:25GMT]

jorgenivarsson: http://yfrog.us/b36spz Last keynote session :Terry Anderson #altc2009 [11:25GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Networks of practice not groups of practice - no expectation of reciprocity. New motivations instead #altc2009 [11:25GMT]

kateboardman: @r3beccaf ask and thou shalt get - on at least the font size :) #altc2009 [11:25GMT]

sputuk: RT @jamesclay: Are our expecations of Google Wave too high? #altc2009 - I hope not, I think its a possible game changer in many ways [11:25GMT]

stujohnson: Networks of practice rather than communities of practice #altc2009 (@nosnilwar)? [11:26GMT]

Paulbtlw: #altc2009 Thinking about potential deficits of cooperative learning vs collaborative - thinking about Stahl's ideas around group cognition. [11:26GMT]

gillysalmon: paulsen transparency in cooperative online education #altc2009 [11:26GMT]

jobadge: Oh dear, that didn't help, word wraping not on #altc2009 [11:26GMT]

xlearn: @Pompeysie Not to late to join #hhl fringe #hheckl http://hheckl.ning.com #altc2009 [11:26GMT]

sputuk: @kateboardman I think "flocking" is meant to evoke birds not sheep - flitting in and out of a flock easily #altc2009 [11:26GMT]

JackieCarter: Networks of practice - own contribution and reputation. (Social capital again.) #altc2009 [11:26GMT]

djkennedy: On the Manchester PLE?! Spot the irony #altc2009 [11:27GMT]

gillysalmon: Dogs own blog but back to incessant barking ha yeh #altc2009 [11:27GMT]

Dcotton11: Easy to set up network tools, harder to get them to work - so true! #altc2009 [11:27GMT]

jannuku: good cartoon #altc2009 [11:27GMT]

stujohnson: people who live in the intersection of social world are at higher risk of having good ideas burt 2005 #altc2009 (via @gillysalmon) [11:27GMT]

gijsdebakker: @jannuku You prefer good barking as well? ;) #altc2009 [11:27GMT]

TerryWassall: #altc2009 I want to be a rogue node [11:28GMT]

josiefraser: The flock metaphor wasn't about wallpaper? Disappointing #altc2009 [11:28GMT]

gillysalmon: if we flick to roguenode, are we no longer cool #altc2009 [11:29GMT]

sarahhorrigan: People who think kneeling at conferences is a good idea have suprisingly weak knees #altc2009 [11:29GMT]

JenParr09: #altc2009 flock = birds still does not work for me - think 'must all fly south now for no reason at all' [11:29GMT]

Dcotton11: Learning at the edge of chaos. It often feels like that in my life! #altc2009 [11:29GMT]

gillferrell: #altc2009 'Risk of good ideas at inesections' similar to Jef Staes Red Monkey theory [11:29GMT]

MSJACOB: #altc2009 Terry Anderson leraning at the edge of chaos - so true [11:29GMT]

gillysalmon: @jenparr09, but in V formation #altc2009 [11:30GMT]

romieh: Pedagogy in networks - complexity and chaos .... T Anderson #altc2009 [11:30GMT]

daveowhite: Live elluminate chat now totally subverted by twitter fans which sort of fits with the keynote message. #altc2009 [11:30GMT]

sputuk: @josiefraser flock wallpaper analogy - thick, rich textured, hard to paper over and hide? #altc2009 [11:31GMT]

Dcotton11: Collaborative learning, plagiarism, or both? #altc2009 [11:31GMT]

kateboardman: I can see 13 laptop screens from here. 11 have twitterfall, one email, one BBC news. Straw poll :D #altc2009 [11:31GMT]

xlearn: #altc2009 So maybe get pally with a learner who has started a good learner network and work with them instead of setting up own network? [11:31GMT]

gillferrell: #altc2009 Can read elluminate stream at back as well now - can't cope with this much multitasking [11:31GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Access control the best feature of Elgg?? #altc2009 [11:32GMT]

sgwarnog: RT @earthable Would u kill for a shiny new laptop? Conflict materials in electronics: http://bit.ly/n239C (via @JSDavis82) #altc2009 [11:32GMT]

kateboardman: @xlearn is that like making friends with a keen person with neat handwriting to borrow their notes? #altc2009 [11:32GMT]

gillysalmon: cannot find one tool that works best in all environments, needs move in and out of private public #altc2009 [11:32GMT]

scubagirl02: Terry Anderson LIKES elgg!! #altc2009 [11:32GMT]

djkennedy: RT @daveowhite: Live elluminate chat now totally subverted by twitter fans which sort of fits with the keynote message. #altc2009 [11:32GMT]

theokk: RT @kateboardman: I can see 13 laptop screens from here. 11 have twitterfall, one email, one BBC news. Straw poll :D #altc2009 [11:32GMT]

jamesclay: @daveowhite what live elluminate chat, there is no chat! #altc2009 [11:32GMT]

gillysalmon: don't leave pricate public decisions to IT ooo eeer #altc2009 [11:32GMT]

johntraxler: #altc2009 tweeting within conferences - gergen's 'absent presence' yet again like driving watching satnav instead of watching road [11:33GMT]

AnnetteOdell: _Is_Elgg a PLE? Asking! #altc2009 [11:33GMT]

xlearn: #altc2009 love http://voicethread.com Well worth the money... [11:33GMT]

AJCann: Individuals must control what goes out #altc2009 [11:33GMT]

squinsee: individuals should control access not IT directors #altc2009 [11:33GMT]

sputuk: RT @gillysalmon: don't leave pricate public decisions to IT ooo eeer #altc2009 - I'm in IT, and I agree with that completely! not our call [11:33GMT]

TerryWassall: #altc2009 keynote as toolfest [11:33GMT]

cristinacost: RT @timbuckteeth: Anderson - don't leave these decisions to your computer services managers! #altc2009 [11:34GMT]

jamesclay: @johntraxler or using satnav to get to destination faster, better, smarter... #altc2009 [11:34GMT]

gillysalmon: @johntraxler #altc2009 yes John, so beautiful innit [11:34GMT]

elaines: Access control to PLE 'stuff' should belong to the user. How do we convince the current 'controllers' to let go? #altc2009 [11:34GMT]

jamesclay: @johntraxler tools are tools you can use them badly and you can use them well, question is how do we pass on the skills to do this #altc2009 [11:34GMT]

openpad: Third part of model is Collective - cf wisdom of crowds. Terry at #altc2009 [11:34GMT]

Dcotton11: Always wonder about 'wisdom of crowds', what about 'pooling of ignorance?' #altc2009 [11:35GMT]

gillysalmon: on the design of collection applications dron and anderson #altc2009 [11:35GMT]

josiefraser: Terry; Voicethreads great tool but third party service issues for universities - privacy, legal - re services hosted by others #altc2009 [11:35GMT]

kjbrunton: Use of elluminate chat is an agreement between Alt and the company as a sales tool? :( #altc2009 can't we split the screen? [11:35GMT]

kateboardman: @johntraxler 'wisdom of crowd' - i find twitter shows person next to me hears a whole different talk. this applies to students too #altc2009 [11:36GMT]

JackieCarter: Click Bill Tancer - crowd sourcing in commercial world #altc2009 [11:36GMT]

jamesclay: Pencils, pens, ink, paper, books, magazines, newspapers, lectures, keynotes... all tools for learning... #altc2009 [11:36GMT]

twfall: RT @kateboardman: I can see 13 laptop screens from here. 11 have twitterfall, one email, one BBC news. Straw poll :D #altc2009 [11:36GMT]

xlearn: #altc2009 @jamesclay @johntraxler Could start by practising what we preach and modelling good practice. [11:36GMT]

daveowhite: @HallyMk1 whatever. #altc2009 [11:36GMT]

sputuk: @gillysalmon you might find your pushing at an open door to take control of published (might not) #altc2009 [11:36GMT]

Pompeysie: VLE - PLE - NLE - MIC-KEY M-O-U-S-E la la la........!!! #ALTC2009 [11:36GMT]

markchilds: @jamesclay institutions trying to be cool just embarasses students anyway (the dad disco dancing metaphor) uncool is the new cool #altc2009 [11:37GMT]

sputuk: RT @Dcotton11: Always wonder about 'wisdom of crowds', what about 'pooling of ignorance?' #altc2009 - agreed, see 4chan! [11:37GMT]

henryblackman: Always wonder about 'wisdom of crowds', what about 'pooling of ignorance?' #altc2009 (via @Dcotton11) [11:37GMT]

jamesclay: RT @Dcotton11: Always wonder about 'wisdom of crowds', what about 'pooling of ignorance?' #altc2009 [11:37GMT]

xlearn: RT @Dcotton11: Always wonder about 'wisdom of crowds', what about 'pooling of ignorance?' #altc2009 [11:37GMT]

AJCann: @elaines Go outside - don't ask for control, take it #altc2009 [11:37GMT]

gillysalmon: moving to OERs #altc2009 [11:38GMT]

sputuk: Maybe its me, but I'm not learning anything new in this keynote speech at #altc2009 [11:38GMT]

iltman: #altc2009 @ dcotton11 "none of us is as dumb as all of us" http://bit.ly/RIX4U [11:38GMT]

djkennedy: RT @Pompeysie: VLE - PLE - NLE - MIC-KEY M-O-U-S-E la la la........!!! #ALTC2009 [11:38GMT]

jamesclay: RT @markchilds: @jamesclay institutions trying to be cool just embarasses students anyway (the dad disco dancing metaphor) #altc2009 [11:38GMT]

JackieCarter: Gideon Burton Academic Evolution blog - the open scholar #altc2009 [11:38GMT]

gillysalmon: blog what is open scholar gideon burton #altc2009 [11:38GMT]

Eingang: @josiefraser Love Athabasca U. I did several courses there. It's also from my home province. Go, AU! #altc2009 [11:38GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Open access week is just around the corner... I should have heard about that... Right?? #altc2009 [11:38GMT]

bensteeples: RT @iltman: #altc2009 @ dcotton11 "none of us is as dumb as all of us" http://bit.ly/RIX4U [11:39GMT]

helenrf: OERs available within HE/FE institutions but not to independent learners or private sector - no such thing as private sector OERs #altc2009 [11:39GMT]

JenParr09: #altc2009 does twitter fall under open resources? :-) [11:40GMT]

torresk: @timbuckteeth @AnnetteOdell:Is_Elgg a PLE? Don't think so,PLE includes people,non-digital resources.Elgg is one more tool in PLE #altc2009 [11:40GMT]

jobadge: Open access week http://bit.ly/fXtlX #altc2009 [11:40GMT]

sarahhorrigan: 'you are a negligent academic if you don't go out and see what else is out there first' #altc2009 [11:40GMT]

gillysalmon: find substitutes that are open rather than employ IPR people #altc2009 [11:40GMT]

ronm123: #altc2009 got to add a plug for http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert re OER [11:40GMT]

jamesclay: RT @MarkPower Who is the keynote and when was their last book out? #altc2009 [11:40GMT]

henryblackman: don't ask for control, take it #altc2009 (@AJCann). You assume you own what you do. Most likely you don't! [11:40GMT]

cdmilligan: Following @openpad recounting Terry Anderson's talk at #altc2009 - we like the Dron and Anderson work on group -- collective. [11:40GMT]

kateboardman: not sure i buy you are negligent academic looking for OERs before developing own stuff. creativity? innovation? :) #altc2009 [11:40GMT]

gillysalmon: seth Gurrell manual for OERs #altc2009 [11:41GMT]

marloft: RT @timbuckteeth: RT @sarahhorrigan: 'you are a negligent academic if you don't go out and see what else is out there first' #altc2009 [11:41GMT]

JackieCarter: but do they put resources into OER repositories as well as taking them out? #altc2009 (OER manual for educators- Seth Gurell) [11:41GMT]

stujohnson: Open access week http://bit.ly/fXtlX #altc2009 (via @jobadge) [11:42GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Open scholars self archive #altc2009 [11:42GMT]

theokk: RT @timbuckteeth Anderson - Talking about Open Scholar - someone who makes their intellectual projects open and visible #altc2009 [11:42GMT]

djkennedy: RT @kateboardman not sure i buy you are negligent academic looking for OERs before developing own stuff.creativity? innovation? :) #altc2009 [11:42GMT]

jamesclay: RT @MarkPower: @sputuk @jamesclay Loved his work on Thunderbirds but not really kept up with him since then. #altc2009 [11:42GMT]

ostephens: Terry Anderson plugging self archiving of publication - Sherpa Romeo, eprints and dspace get a plug on the slide #altc2009 [11:42GMT]

JackieCarter: @kateboardman agree - but have to start somewhere? Negligent a bit strong tho. #altc2009 [11:42GMT]

openpad: Switch two people clearing copyright to one person finding substitutes that don't have copyright substitution. Terry at #altc2009 [11:43GMT]

AJCann: Open scholars self-archive #altc2009 [11:43GMT]

ostephens: Now Open notebooks getting a plug (specifically openwetware) #altc2009 [11:43GMT]

sputuk: Open scolars – is this really something new? Isn’t scholarship always about sharing things openly? Did I miss a meeting? #altc2009 [11:43GMT]

djkennedy: RT @jamesclay: RT @MarkPower: @sputuk @jamesclay Loved his work on Thunderbirds but not really kept up with him since then. #altc2009 [11:43GMT]

Paulbtlw: #altc2009 sometimes there is intrinsic value in reinventing wheels - people learn about wheel building that way! [11:44GMT]

marloft: Open Scholars do Open Research (perhaps in Open Notebooks) Anderson #altc2009 [11:44GMT]

mjryan42: I like the idea of openness being encouraged by Terry. #altc2009 [11:44GMT]

henryblackman: Who pays "open scholars"? #altc2009 [11:44GMT]

helenrf: Can Open Scholars be researcher/practitioners outside institutions? #altc2009 Yes apparently - peer to peer university [11:44GMT]

gillysalmon: university of the people (US) tuition free #altc2009 [11:44GMT]

openpad: Open Scholar terminology (could feed in well to @mweller work on digital scholarship at the OU). Terry at #altc2009 [11:44GMT]

JackieCarter: Stephen Downes OLDaily - great filter. Anyone follow this? #altc2009 [11:44GMT]

Dcotton11: Ethical issues of making research logs available online problematic #altc2009 [11:44GMT]

dsugden: RT @Paulbtlw: #altc2009 sometimes there is intrinsic value in reinventing wheels - people learn about wheel building that way! [11:44GMT]

ostephens: @joypalmer there was a v interesting pres at #altc2009 on the impact of hyperlinked text on reading style (and how strategic readers suffer) [11:44GMT]

JackieCarter: RT @mjryan42: I like the idea of openness being encouraged by Terry. #altc2009 [11:45GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Why let others filter stuff for you? Who needs ego-filtering?? RSS anyone?? #altc2009 [11:45GMT]

romieh: university of the people http://www.uopeople.org/ #altc2009 [11:45GMT]

HeikePhilp: University of People to start in the States http://www.uopeople.org/ #altc2009 [11:45GMT]

gillysalmon: DOAJ directory of Open Access journals, interesting challenge #altc2009 [11:45GMT]

jamesclay: RT @dsugden: RT @Paulbtlw: #altc2009 sometimes there is intrinsic value in reinventing wheels - people learn about wheel building that way! [11:46GMT]

jamesclay: RT @sarahhorrigan: Why let others filter stuff for you? Who needs ego-filtering?? RSS anyone?? #altc2009 [11:46GMT]

jobadge: http://bit.ly/SlbDJ university of the people #altc2009 [11:46GMT]

helenrf: ! @sarahhorrigan one respects individuals and portals - gets rid of the noise #altc2009 [11:46GMT]

Dcotton11: Open access journals outperforming traditional journals (by citations) Anderson #altc2009 [11:46GMT]

marloft: @gillysalmon Peer to Peer University #altc2009 http://bit.ly/7ai99 [11:47GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Open access are now more cited than closed in some fields #altc2009 [11:47GMT]

dsugden: @joypalmer 'there was a v interesting pres at #altc2009 on the impact of hyperlinked text on...' which one Joy? I'd like to chase it up [11:47GMT]

adamread: At the station preparing 4 long journey home frm #altc2009. Enjoyed the conference but not looking 4wrd 2 writing it up! [11:47GMT]

djkennedy: RT @dsugden: RT @Paulbtlw: #altc2009 sometimes there is intrinsic value in reinventing wheels - people learn about wheel building that way! [11:47GMT]

sputuk: @Paulbtlw True - and in re-inventing wheels, sometimes you invent the tank tread/inflatable inner tube etc #altc2009 [11:47GMT]

AJCann: DOAJ directory of Open Access journals, interesting challenge #altc2009 (via @gillysalmon) [11:47GMT]

sarahhorrigan: Here comes the book plug... #altc2009 [11:47GMT]

marloft: RT @jobadge: http://bit.ly/SlbDJ university of the people #altc2009 [11:48GMT]

francesbell: #altc2009 harzing's publish or perish tool - terry Anderson has shown open access citations exceed closed ones. [11:48GMT]

gijsdebakker: @sarahhorrigan Would you like to spend your time reading all those feeds then? I'm happy Stephen is doing some of that for me :) #altc2009 [11:48GMT]

SueFolley: Brainify - Canadian social bookmarking tool for education #altc2009 [11:49GMT]

jamesclay: @gijsdebakker @sarahhorrigan But what about the stuff that Stephen rejects, how do you know it is not of value to you? #altc2009 [11:49GMT]

shrifootring: You can download Terry's book here (but probably best to not do it during keynote...) #altc2009 http://bit.ly/4D34Kn [11:50GMT]

helenrf: You can ignore copyright if you're being paid anyway - authors & creators often rely on selling their work to live #altc2009 [11:50GMT]

cristinacost: RT @francesbell: #altc2009 harzing's publish or perish tool - terry Anderson has shown open access citations exceed closed ones. [11:50GMT]

gillysalmon: flatworld free text? #altc2009 [11:50GMT]

josswinn: #altc2009 Marginalia annotation tool: http://www.geof.net/code/annotation/ [11:50GMT]

kateboardman: hope terry's slides will be on crowdvine to save me making more notes - or i'll have to watch the recording #altc2009 [11:50GMT]

gillysalmon: open student movement with bill of rights #altc2009 [11:50GMT]

gijsdebakker: @jamesclay @sarahhorringan it's all a matter of trust ;) ;) #altc2009 [11:51GMT]

henryblackman: You can ignore copyright if you're being paid anyway - authors & creators often rely on selling their work to live #altc2009 (via @helenrf) [11:51GMT]

julietteculver: #altc2009 another e.g. of open course http://gamedesignconcepts.wordpress.com/ [11:51GMT]

Dcotton11: Open scholars encourage open students - democratises publishing perhaps? #altc2009 [11:51GMT]

sarahhorrigan: 2000 people signed up for Siemens Connectivism course, only 18 paid for accreditation #altc2009 [11:52GMT]

helenrf: is this twitter stream being saved somewhere? #altc2009 [11:52GMT]

xlearn: #altc2009 wish there was a way i could connect my mac up to someone else's to suck their battery power... [11:52GMT]

sctv: @sarahhorrigan what fields are open acces more cited? bioinformatics? engineering? #altc2009 [11:52GMT]

daveowhite: @davecormier has just been name dropped by terry Anderson for his mooc work. #altc2009 [11:52GMT]

SueFolley: I can't believe that #altc2009 isn't trending. I can hardly keep up with the stream on twitterfall [11:52GMT]

gillysalmon: future...ecology of LLL #altc2009 [11:52GMT]

R3beccaF: @kateboardman His slides are on the website http://altc2009.alt.ac.uk/talks/show/6870 #altc2009 [11:52GMT]

ostephens: Real shame that the AUPress ebooks are just pdf - would be much better in epub format for phone/ebook reader use #altc2009 [11:53GMT]

SueFolley: RT @sarahhorrigan: 2000 people signed up for Siemens Connectivism course, only 18 paid for accreditation #altc2009 [11:53GMT]

jamesclay: @sarahhorrigan I wonder how many of those 2000 were lecturers who taught Connectivism? #altc2009 [11:53GMT]

dsugden: @sarahhorrigan 18 didn't come from Yorkshire then? #altc2009 [11:53GMT]

julietteculver: #altc2009 live blog notes from keynote: http://cloudworks.ac.uk/index.php/cloud/view/2258.html [11:54GMT]

AJCann: Good keynote from TerryA to end #altc2009 - bye all. [11:54GMT]

gillysalmon: Qs-what does institution needs to do to afford to have open scholars?: change reward structures #altc2009 [11:55GMT]

gillysalmon: @ajcann see you in the New Media Zoo Alan #altc2009 [11:55GMT]

yishaym: @jamesclay @johntraxler that's what we call "design knowledge". use design narratives & design patterns to share it. #altc2009 [11:56GMT]

markstiles: #altc2009 when will we see the close of openess? [11:56GMT]

jobadge: RT @mweller: New blog post: The 'Technology isn't important' argument - http://u.nu/89573 #altc2009 [11:56GMT]

JenParr09: #altc2009 my first exposure to twitter - signed up yesterday. fantastic. thanks all! [11:56GMT]

jamesclay: Change the people if they won't change their habits. #altc2009 [11:57GMT]

jannuku: RT @jamesclay: Change the people if they won't change their habits. #altc2009 [11:58GMT]

EllisBlackman: RT @henryblackman: Always wonder about 'wisdom of crowds', what about 'pooling of ignorance?' #altc2009 (via @Dcotton11) [11:59GMT]

sputuk: question from the floor "does ownership of ideas matter in the open scolarship vision of the future presented" (paraphrased) #altc2009 [12:00GMT]

michaeldwebb: Watching VLE is dead video from #altc2009 - http://bit.ly/zvGs8 [12:00GMT]

PaulHollins: To be brutally honest I'm feeling somewhat underwhelmed by the *quality* of the (virtual) discussion @#altc2009 [12:00GMT]

elaines: Thanks to all at #altc2009 for a good conference. [12:00GMT]

marloft: Copyright has inhibited creativity and contribution. Openness encourages these - but attribution is important. Anderson #altc2009 [12:01GMT]

gijsdebakker: getting hungry (sorry terry) #altc2009 [12:01GMT]

tbush: Change the people if they won't change their habits. #altc2009 (via @jamesclay) [12:01GMT]

ostephens: Terry Anderson: "Attribution is important, and not that difficult" And #telstar intends to make it easier :) http://is.gd/36DyL #altc2009 [12:01GMT]

sputuk: @PaulHollins maybe its a "day 3" thing - or a reflection of how the presentation stimulated the discussion? #altc2009 [12:02GMT]

kateboardman: @markstiles do you mean when will openness be dead?! @jamesclay is probably already writing its abstract... :) #altc2009 [12:02GMT]

arepeejee: RT @markchilds: @jamesclay institutions trying to be cool just embarasses students anyway (the dad disco dancing metaphor) #altc2009 [12:03GMT]

kateboardman: RT @gijsdebakker: getting hungry (sorry terry) #altc2009 (via @twazzup) [12:03GMT]

sputuk: shutting down - ready for lunch, then train, more train, then sleep! #altc2009 [12:03GMT]

tim_neumann: Which discussion? It's mostly reporting... RT @PaulHollins is feeling underwhelmed by the *quality* of the (virtual) discussion @#altc2009 [12:03GMT]

jamesclay: RT @kateboardman: @markstiles do you mean when will openness be dead?! @jamesclay is probably already writing its abstract... :) #altc2009 [12:03GMT]

Pouchatron: I'm on the train suffering from technology withdrawal, I want my wireless back! #altc2009 [12:04GMT]

ostephens: @HallyMk1 agree with @mweller that in part is about perspective. #altc2009 includes audience with diff perspectives and so 'hear' diff msgs [12:04GMT]

dkernohan: Good Terry Anderson point from #altc2009 keynote, finding open alternate resources an obvious improvement on clearing closed ones. [12:04GMT]

TerryWassall: #altc2009 #altf09 Bye everyone. Thanks for making this a great and fun conference. [12:06GMT]

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